FRNSW - Medical First Response

Ambulance, First Aid etc
guaranteedresponse
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Re: FRNSW - Medical First Response

Post by guaranteedresponse » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:35 pm

sydneycomms wrote:Can't happen fast enough for my liking.

Most choking patients or cardiac arrest patients near a fire station would probably agree with me.... several patients a day could have potentially life saving faster intervention just in the GSA.

Dare I say it.... the Union is probably a bit out of touch with what's reasonable in this case.

If it happened in front of an on duty crew you imagine they would stop and help - what's being proposed isn't much different.

Option 1 - stay on station

Option 2 - go and help someone nearby with a life threatening condition that you can do something meaningful about.

No brainer to my mind.
I agree with your sentiment SydneyComms, but know of 2 incidents in the last year or so that happened outside a fire station and the staff did not assist as it was "not their job" and "would interrupt gym time"!! Its probably easier to reform and improve the ambulance service than try to improve that woeful
attitude!

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Re: FRNSW - Medical First Response

Post by guaranteedresponse » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:14 am

Another issue that has arisen re Medical First Response...

ASNSW staff are required to have Working With Children Checks and keep them updated throughout their career. So do Police.

However, FRNSW staff have no such requirement, yet are actively attending Ambulance incidents before (or occasionally in place of ) Ambulance arrival. How come Paramedics (the often voted "most trusted profession") not trusted to work with kids in a time of vulnerability, but Firefighters ( can't even trust them with a credit card) are..??

A lot of Panic up top over this one!!

Rambler
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Re: FRNSW - Medical First Response

Post by Rambler » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:40 am

guaranteedresponse wrote: ASNSW staff are required to have Working With Children Checks and keep them updated throughout their career. So do Police.
So do NSW SES Community First Responders (CFR).

sydneycomms
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Re: FRNSW - Medical First Response

Post by sydneycomms » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:03 pm

Storm in a teacup.

CFR Qualified FRNSW firefighters should all go through the WWCC process.

MFR still doesn't exist, so I'm not sure what all of the "panic up top" would be about.

Given that there has never been a publicly reported problem with a FRNSW firefighter not being in a position to pass a WWCC, maybe lets stop jumping at shadows and focus on looking after our community.....

Unless of course someone's trying to find yet another reason not to assist members of our community in need.

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Re: FRNSW - Medical First Response

Post by guaranteedresponse » Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:02 pm

sydneycomms wrote:Storm in a teacup.


MFR still doesn't exist, so I'm not sure what all of the "panic up top" would be about.
Funny you should say that, only 2 hours after you posted this a permanent station was responded to an "MFR" due to "no ambulances available on Central Coast". The incident has since been pulled from BOSS

Given that there has never been a publicly reported problem with a FRNSW firefighter not being in a position to pass a WWCC, maybe lets stop jumping at shadows and focus on looking after our community..... Perhaps not publically reported, but the issue has been the subject of meetings in the tower, especially after a member was recently found to have an undeclared recent conviction...

Unless of course someone's trying to find yet another reason not to assist members of our community in need.
If we're gonna do it, why don't we do it properly, without using unsuitable persons and untrained persons

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Re: FRNSW - Medical First Response

Post by sydneycomms » Thu May 07, 2020 3:59 pm

Well it's taken a few years.... but it's finally arrived.

Medical First Response to Cardiac Arrests has been implemented for FRNSW and SES the VRA, and will be coming shortly for RFS based on the formal written communication to all NSW Ambulance Staff yesterday afteroon.

Direct Quote:

"Our colleagues in organisations including; State Emergency Service, Fire and Rescue NSW, Volunteer Rescue Association and Rural Fire Service, already have Automated External Defibrillators (AED), training in CPR and work and live within communities throughout NSW. They are ideally placed to support us in our important work of saving lives in OHCA through the early initiation of CPR and defibrillation, where they may be closer to an incident of out of hospital cardiac arrest.

The PAD program will see our partners dispatched to 1A Cardiac Arrests through the InterCAD Electronic Messaging System (ICEMS), where they are identified as the closest AED resource. NSW Ambulance will always simultaneously respond paramedics to the cardiac arrest.

A Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) has been signed with Fire and Rescue NSW, State Emergency Service and the Volunteer Rescue Association. We have an ‘in principle’ agreement with the Rural Fire Service."

End quote

Two Hats
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Re: FRNSW - Medical First Response

Post by Two Hats » Thu May 21, 2020 6:08 pm

The RFS only has a 'IPA' because it actually wants to engage first with its volunteers to see if they want to be part of this program.

The early word on the streets is that some members in some brigades are interested.

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